GBWC, GBTN, NS, and the 3rd Age of Ghostbusting

[Dr. Andy Harness]

As some of you may know, the GB community is going to be changing soon. Much like the One Year Later arc of DC, Bo, Fritz, and myself are currently working on our version of "Infinite Crisis."

We're not gonna be superheroes anymore. Bo charged me with the task of writing a story by his guidelines.... Well, unless he says otherwise, here's how I think this is gonna go down.

Fritz wants a bad guy to be our catalyst.... I think that's too typical. This is a people story. We're changing, and we need to show that change and why we have to change. Fritz does have a point though. The GBTN has not had an official incident with Ashram in quite some time. Some stuff happened that closed down the GBWC and forced members to move to the GBTN. That can still be Ashram, but the events of that will spark what I like to call "The Third Dawn."

Here's a quick run-down of the story plot:

Franchises are acting larger than life (i.e. a Minnesota franchise throws itself a parade for almost every bust) and GBI as a whole has become disgraced by pride and power.

After Ashram's encounter and ultimate defeat at the hands of the WCD and GBTN have warranted a blindly led GBI HQ to order a transfer order or Ashram to New York for "proper detaining" along with other big baddies from major franchises. The transfer team is made of two guys from a Jersey franchise. While flirting with two girls, they accidentally releases Ashram, who murders the busters, the girls, and incorporates the powers the ghosts into his own. GBI underestimates the situation and sends Nightsquad to deal with it because they aren't as "PC" as the other teams who roam the day time.

Fritz and Andy, both aware of the situation, round up the GBTN and the older members of the WCD to fight Ashram while the rookies hold down the forts in the respective territories. (Monroe will be working with Kyle Stevens on the whole West Coast while Jason, Rose, and Rachel go to Tennessee.)

GBI orders that the mission to capture/destroy Ashram is top secret. During this time, there will be short tales of the non-heroic and idiotic acts of some other teams.

Ultimately, the GBTN members die, a MNGB kills a child in a costume by accident while trying to gain some more fame, and GBI is in a lot of trouble for it's loose cannon GBs and it's covering up the deaths of the GBTN members.

The four founding members fire the current staff and bring in new people and reorganize the GBs into what it originally meant to be. Men fighting the supernatural as job, not as superheroic figures who thought the law didn't apply to them.

The basic point is that when all the new stories come out, the GBs are in the same boat the original four were in. The world needs to learn to trust Ghostbusters again. Nothing is normal anymore.


What do you think? It might be a bit dark, but I think this could have the potential to take over the namesake "Legends of Ghostbusters."

p.s. I need all your ages (guys only) for the GBWC stuff.

[Dr. Fritz V. Baugh]

I definitely think there are some intriguing ideas here--I admitted it from the first, when Bo first came to me with his concept.

But one thing I have to say right now: we can only do this if everybody's on board with it.

I see Andy's point about having GBI hubris be behind this, instead of a bad guy. Not to say the bad guy I had in mind might not take advantage of the situation, though...

[Jeremy Hicks]

I'm in. I'll be 26 in Jan.

[Jason D Knetge]

I'm in

I will be 24 on jun 7th

grif said:

As some of you may know, the GB community is going to be changing soon. Much like the One Year Later arc of DC, Bo, Fritz, and myself are currently working on our version of "Infinite Crisis."

When will this takes place because I was going to ask Fritz to help me with a story that takes place in april

Fritz I will PM you

grif said:

We're not gonna be superheroes anymore. Bo charged me with the task of writing a story by his guidelines.... Well, unless he says otherwise, here's how I think this is gonna go down.

So we're going from JLA to more like SG-1 ?

grif said:

The four founding members fire the current staff and bring in new people and reorganize the GBs into what it originally meant to be. Men fighting the supernatural as job, not as superheroic figures who thought the law didn't apply to them.

you don't mean the Extreme Ghostbusters do you ?

grif said:

Fritz and Andy, both aware of the situation, round up the GBTN and the older members of the WCD to fight Ashram while the rookies hold down the forts in the respective territories. (Monroe will be working with Kyle Stevens on the whole West Coast while Jason, Rose, and Rachel go to Tennessee.)

I'v bin itching for some action

veedramon said:

I definitely think there are some intriguing ideas here--I admitted it from the first, when Bo first came to me with his concept.

I see Andy's point about having GBI hubris be behind this, instead of a bad guy. Not to say the bad guy I had in mind might not take advantage of the situation, though...

metaphorically speaking the Ghostbusters have bin on top of the mountain for to long .

with this fall from the top new dark factions can move in to be a reoccurring problem that we face like the trust in star gate.

I'm also making a list of bad guys we can use but a lot of them are from other genres like Frankensteins Dr. Pretorias

[Dr. Andy Harness]

Jason, I never watched Stargate, so I'll just say what Bo's idea was.... an Ambulatory service.

Pest control is too gritty and too lame. Ambulance drivers have more in common with us.... besides driving flashing lit-up vehicles. hahah

Fritz, Bo's on board, but I don't know if the rest of Nightsquad is. Bo actually wanted me to write it all, but I doubt I'd be able to do it without my little Fritters helping out. lol

And it doesn't have to be Ashram, but he could totally work, he garners some of his powers from hatred. That's a fact that hasn't been imposed since his first appearance many years ago. Could you imagine how hard it would be to take him out if he was in New York and found that Slime River underneath the streets?

How does everyone feel about this story being the new Legends of Ghostbusters, replacing the old story of GBs causing apocalypse and having to recruit heroes from the past?

[¡Eduardo Fantasico!]

The four founding members fire the current staff and bring in new people and reorganize the GBs into what it originally meant to be. Men fighting the supernatural as job, not as superheroic figures who thought the law didn't apply to them.

you don't mean the Extreme Ghostbusters do you ?

There ain't no way in Hell I'm being fired from Ghostbusters on Harness's say-so. In case all you twerps forgot, I was here first. Before Frito, before Harness, hell even before Holbrook.

[mick]

So what is this gonna mean for us smaller franchises that are still trying to make our niche in the community? Do we just get lumped in with the "GBI is a disgrace" category?

[DrKyleStevens]

My real age is 23, but my character's age is 26,currently. I'm in. Eduardo does have a point. EGB did come before the GBI thing ever did. I think they should stay.

[I'm Not OK (I Promise)]

[glow=blue,2,300]Hmm... when on the timeline is this business gonna be? I guess that since it involves Ashram, it happened before Rachel hopped on board... but if it happens after Rachel joined in, I'm in all the way. She was born in 1859, but only remembers back to 1930. She cites her birthdate as September 28, 1987 (the day she picked up the moniker "Rachel Leavenworth").[/glow]

[TheRazorsEdge]

I (or rather, "Dr. Chrismer") will be 33 in June.

[Dr. Fritz V. Baugh]

Rachel, if it's Ashram it's not the same encounter with Ashram mentioned before (the GBWC battle with Ashram that trashes our HQ in 2004) The story would involve hhis escaping yet again (making him one of the hardest to contain entities in GBI history lol)

As of New Years 2007:

Dr. Fritz is 35 and Otter is 78.

If you need any others, there's always the Profile pages.

[Dr. Andy Harness]

Mick, not all the franchises are disgraces... just the ones who don't keep up their records. You're good.

Eduardo, I'm sure you'll stay, I'm talking administrative snotty folks getting the can.

Fritz, We don't have to do Ashram for either story if you don't want to. He's just an interesting character that I never got to exploit to his full potential.

[mick]

Well I took offense to that because I've always considered myself to be the top rung of the bare-bones side of propping franchises AND the fan-fiction franchises (meaning that our stuff is mostly crap) and I have always stuck up for the little teams that are trying to make their mark in a community dominated by a select few. Trying to get noticed around here is difficult and intimidating at times and I've only BARELY managed to get that far because I annoyed the crap out of people till they remembered my name at least. I'm just defensive about the little-known franchises is all, which is why when I write stuff I usually include tidbits of stuff from them ALL the time, probably the only person that I include in my stories that isnt a small-time person like me is Belmont. And that only happened because apparently we share some views on the supernatural. Idk, I'm rambling, but the basic bottom line of it is that the little guys get kicked around a lot and I've seen some people disappear entirely as a result of "timeline alterations". (shrug) I've prattled on for long enough.

[TheRazorsEdge]

The "little" franchises wouldn't have so much trouble if they didn't isolate themselves to such small territories.

We're not chapters of the Boy Scouts. There's not a GB station in every town. We're a very rarely needed and specialized service.

It's one thing to post a picture ONCE on Rich Roy's board of you and your buddies in halloween costumes and say "We're the Bum**** County Ghostbusters, we patrol four square miles of Ohio!"

It's something COMPLETELY different to be actually dedicated to the community, posting on the boards regularly, sharing your opinions on the fan fictions and the timeline and the nature of the "business", actually participating in the meat and potatoes of GBI.

Only the people who are willing to actually DO THINGS ONCE IN A WHILE deserve to be a real and official franchise, and those genuinely dedicated franchises also deserve to cover more than a single city or state. I see no reason why there should be more than 4 to 8 franchises in the entire United States (not counting specialized units like the Arcane Division)

Naming a franchise the "Tampa Ghostbusters" is basically just admitting you're small potatoes. You COULD be the "Florida Ghostbusters" or even "Ghostbusters South", man. Seriously, who's toes are going to be stepped on? There's nobody else down there!

You don't have to have a really excellent looking prop proton pack or a bunch of talented artists drawing pictures of you to aim for the stars. And don't be afraid people will accuse you of being overbearing or trying to hog the spotlight or some crap like that either. The West Coast Division covers a third of the country, an entire ocean, and if you really wanna have some fun, the east coast of Asia too. And nobody ever said a single word against us.

The only way for a group, newbies or otherwise, to really overstep their bounds is to call themselves something REALLY corny like "Doom Patrol". >_>

[Jason D Knetge]

grif said:

The basic point is that when all the new stories come out, the GBs are in the same boat the original four were in. The world needs to learn to trust Ghostbusters again. Nothing is normal anymore.

this will affect all of us we-re guilty by association

It just takes one to ruin it for everyone

mick said:

So what is this gonna mean for us smaller franchises that are still trying to make our niche in the community? Do we just get lumped in with the "GBI is a disgrace" category?

it seams to me that the new York Franchises and WCD will bar the brunt of the disgrace and will haft to work harder regain the peoples trust


the Tampa Ghostbusters may recover from this a bit faster .

mick said:

I've only BARELY managed to get that far because I annoyed the crap out of people till they remembered my name at least.least

ho are you ;D ;D


Mick you team is down to earth and responsible and hay if the fore founders are cutting the dead wait the may say give that territory to the Tampa Ghostbusters they can handle it .